Saturday, October 13, 2012

Selenian Trading Post/Inn

John Hare has another of his great posts which requires me to defend my mars focus. Keep in mind that focusing on mars does not mean ignoring the moon. I applaud his incremental free market approach to the moon. An approach that too few consider.
The only way that Mars will be developed first is by a top down, massive effort with myopic focus on the red planet.
Forgive me John, but this is a strawman. An incremental free market approach, as he advocates for the moon, is also the best way to develop mars. The thing that will hold back settlement is government interference and regulation. Space is not owned by anyone. We need to reinforce the historical precedent that something not owned can be claimed by possession by anyone (as long as the claim is reasonable.) A charter with all members following the rules makes it legal.

A free market approach isn't going to work anywhere in space if it cost too much for individuals and families to afford. This is why I advocate a charter that provides transportation for free and rewards a colonist's risk of life with assets that make every colonist a potential millionaire with immediate wealth. Those going for flags and footprints do not get these benefits and would have to pay their own way.

It doesn't have to be a massive effort either. Done right it wouldn't be. We could send 42 colonists to mars for $3b. That $3b is paid by a company that could afford it, not the colonists. Those companies would receive assets potentially worth many times their investment made valuable by the very colonists they transport and by other means. This works on mars and not the moon precisely because of the distances and times involved.

I agree somewhat that a myopic focus has some benefits. What about his other points?
...a Lunar ship can be sized at 2% of the Mars ships size, and still haul at least equal tonnage.
There are three steps to either location. Getting to orbit cost the same for either location and today is one of the most expensive steps. That cost can come down by sending more people at a time and using reusable vehicles. But it is the same cost.

The quote above is about the second step, going from orbit to orbit. Ships should of course all be reusable with costs amortised over many round trips. Ships that make more round trips are going to wear out faster requiring expensive replacement, but still there is no question that this cost favors the moon. I would argue that the real expense is political and ease of access works against a colony. You are not free when government dominates all aspects of your life. I strongly believe the moon will be dominated by earth politics where the distance to mars makes it much easier for them to become politically independent. A private venture can self finance to go to mars and no government on earth has the jurisdiction to run (or ruin) their lives. They have the natural right to assert their liberty. This will not be so easy to do if only three days from earth. The precedent is best established on mars.

The third step, landing on either mars and the moon could be done with a Falcon Heavy launch and a Red Lander for nearly the same cost. A reusable SSTO lander would soon provide service for either location; a methane engine for mars and a hydrogen engine on the moon.

Yes, it cost more to send a person to the martian surface than to the lunar surface and it's much harder to come back. The moon also has a ready trade item: Oxygen in its rocks everywhere and probably enough water in certain locations. Those trade items are valuable, but only become really valuable if you are going somewhere else like mars. For a colony to be viable it either has to be self sufficient or have a reliable trade item that can cover costs. Mars has everything it needs to be self sufficient while the moon must depend on trade.

Trade will not be based on massive trade items. People on earth will get wealth from colonies because they will own shares of transportation companies that will operate for profit as well as other companies pursuing their own free market goals. Those companies will profit by getting assets that appreciate the more colonists exist pursuing their own happinesses. How much is a whole world worth? One that isn't dominated by the crushing regulations found on earth?

John is right that a free market is the key. Update: Another mars mission profile. Thank you for the reference John. Real rocket scientists (unlike bums like me) are going to make these things happen.

Let me emphasize: There is no 'colony control authority' as I envision it. Transportation to the surface of mars is simply a ticket paid transaction, with the price covered by land claim. The colonists by their number provide legal enforcement of the transportation companies reasonable by charter claims. Once on the surface of mars each colonist is totally independent and can pursue their own course of action made possible by ownership of valuable assets. They just agree to ownership by the terms of the settlement charter which all members will enforce. They will have to agree to a registry which tracks claims and becomes the first title office tracking chain of title (other title companies will come into existence over time.) Of course survival will require a high level of cooperation and some agreement about who does what, but this does not require they establish some form of government. Common sense and freedom works in small communities. What happens over time is up to the colonists.

The whole point of my vision, as opposed to the Space Settlement Initiative, is to avoid the company town. Wealth is initially distributed to balance risks with, as Thomas Sowell points out, land ownership without odious regulations being the most important element of economic expansion.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ken,

I'll have to take a bit of time to respond properly to this post. I skimmed a few of your priors to start getting an idea of your particular mission suggestion so that I can argue/agree with some degree of accuracy. I have mostly bypassed Mars or Bust blogs and posts because so many of them start, "First we convince the president to give us a few hundred billion...."

One early thought is that you could use better transport architectures to prove me wrong. One possible is the Trans Mars Injection post on SB from August with a possibility of 168 tons in trans-Mars with just 4 Falcon9H launches. Another thing is that I based the post numbers on LEO costs at $500.00 a pound, so apples to apples would bring down the Mars mission costs also.

I somewhat disagree that i was using a strawman on Mars requiring a top down approach early on. Even with your 42 colonists in a single shot is top down in the early missions. The captain of a ship must have absolute authority and autonomy in many conditions. I believe that a Mars trip could well be one of them. Unless there is some means of a colonist leaving to another settlement, ship, or even home to Earth, that colonist is very subject to the whims of the colony control authority, whether it is a council or a captain.

More when I have time/inclination.

John Hare

Paul451 said...

"Trade will not be based on massive trade items. People on earth will get wealth from colonies because they will own shares of transportation companies that will operate for profit"

This, along with your linked Mars Millionaire post, essentially describes a pyramid scheme. You make money selling to the next row of recruits, who make money selling to the next row down. There's nothing else being created or traded, no other external source of income.

"It doesn't have to be a massive effort either. [...] We could send 42 colonists to mars for $3b. [...] Mars has everything it needs to be self sufficient"

You make the classic mistake of pricing the transport at the barest minimum you can squeeze it down to, but calculate the value of Mars assuming "self-sufficiency" without trade. These two things are not compatible. You cannot get a self sufficient colony (hell, you couldn't get a viable base) from your 42 colonists for $3b.

This is why we look at resources first. If you can supply say fuel to existing LEO/GEO markets and NASA BEO missions, then there's an innate purpose to the development. In addition, thanks to the fuel, the next level of commercial development, supplying some other material or service, is that much cheaper and easier to justify. And that development allows the next, and the next. Each step pays for itself, first by servicing existing customers, then by expanding the market itself, by allowing activities that weren't previously cost effective. (Classic example being satellite refuelling, but the available fuel also makes basic repair service more affordable, gradually developing to full-blown orbital assembly services.)

Once you're over that first technological hump, the process is self-reinforcing, it doesn't require some grand Purpose or Vision or Ideology to justify it, it just happens.

ken_anthony said...

John, thank you for leaving a comment. You're one of the best writers out there on this topic.

captain of a ship must have absolute authority

That's a given, how is this different from the captain of a cruise ship? (Bahamas or mars? Definitely a difference, but regarding authority?)

The point of my settlement charter (among others) is that the colonist that can't afford it doesn't pay yet arrives a completely independent character other than agreeing with an ownership regimen.

ken_anthony said...

Paul, you can describe almost anything as a pyramid scheme because it has an overly broad definition. Usually it's just a smear, like racist.

There's nothing else being created or traded, no other external source of income.

Yes, there is.

Good of you not to notice. /sarc

Transportation is a real and profitable business. In this case, paid for by land claims. This in no way prevents that company from making profits in other ways.

You cannot get a self sufficient colony...

You certainly can. Read my stuff on industrial ecology and links to understand how. More people are certainly better, but with the right perspective as little as a few dozen can be completely self sufficient in essentials and 90% (made up percentage alert) self sufficient in everything else.

You are absolutely right that fuel in orbit is a great and down the line necessary goal. My take is that learning to live on mars as early as possible is so important that waiting to make the first few flights as cheap as possible loses a huge opportunity cost.

it just happens

If Musk and Zubrin can make good on their mutual claims of $500m per person to the surface of mars the whole dialog changes. I don't see how they do it, but hope they do.

I believe that even if it cost $100m per person the return on investment is so great we are losing money by not going now. Today. Using existing or near existing technology.

But that's because I see the economy of a solar system full of people dwarfing the economy of a single planet.

ken_anthony said...

Another thing Paul.

You seem to me to be describing the way a town begins and grows over decades as some kind of pyramid scheme. It is not. The wealth already exists in land. It's just a matter of populating it and developing it. No different than anywhere on earth except this land is unowned and claimable.